Can you recommend a bit for my horse?

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Can you please recommend a bit for my horse?

He's an 8 year old Irish Sports Horse and has very thin skin. In his previous home he only hunted. I am now starting to try and do some flat work schooling with him but he is not happy with his bit. It is rubbing the inside of his lip at the bottom where the bit sits (only on one side but his mouth is black one side and pink on the other, it only rubs the pink side). He is currently in a Neue Schule Tranz Angled Lozenge Eggbutt Snaffle.

His teeth have been checked and they are fine. The dentist has told me he has a very sensitive tongue, narrow bars, sensitive roof of his mouth and big lips.

He has a very light, sensitive mouth and does not take much of a contact. He is never strong. He is very green when it comes to schooling. When asked to halt he puts his head up and opens his mouth. Also, sometimes when walking he puts his head into his chest. Sometimes he also head shakes too.

I'm just looking for something that he will find comfortable and that isn't going cause rubs inside his mouth.

I'll be very grateful for any advice you can give.

Thank you

Posted in Starting Young Horses, asked by Stacey Derbyshire, one month ago. 84 hits.

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Hi Stacey,

What bit are you currently riding him in? Would it be possible for you to send me photos of the fit?

It sounds as though the bit is too big for the inside of his mouth. With a horse that has fleshy lips, what can happen is that the structure of the jaw is actually pretty small, but it is made to look bigger because of the lips. With these horses we need to look carefully at fit. The bit will need to be smaller than is ideal so that it correctly fits the inside of the mouth. This does mean that we will need to go with a fixed cheek piece, so that there is no danger of pinching. What is happening now is that the bit is sliding from side to side in the mouth, and this is causing the rubs. Pink skin is generally more sensitive than pigmented skin, which is why one side will be worse.

I does sound as though he could be sensitive to tongue pressure, but I can only confirm this when I know what bit you are currently using.

Regards,
Claire@Bombers

Claire @ Bombers
one month ago
Hi Claire, I have responded below. Thanks. - Stacey Derbyshire one month ago

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Hi Claire,

I'm currently using a Neue Schule Tranz Angled Lozenge Eggbutt Snaffle in size 5.25 inches. What you have said about the bit being too big make sense and corresponds to what my dentist told me. Rather than try a smaller version of what I already have I thought I'd just get some advice first to see if I can find something he would also accept a little more.

When there is no contact on the bit it appears to fit, but I can see now looking at some photos that it probably is too big.

I have attached some photos to show him wearing his current bit. I've also included a seperate picture of his current bit.

Thank you
Stacey

Stacey Derbyshire
one month ago
Hi Stacey, Thank you for getting back to me, and for sending the photos through! The Tranz Angled Lozenge is probably 16mm thick, which could also be contributing to the rubbing. The gap between a horse's bars is only about 16mm, which means that a bit that thick or thicker will put constant pressure on the bars when the mouth is closed. I'm sorry I missed where you mentioned what bit you are using! Your current bit definitely uses tongue pressure, and this is what is causing his signs of discomfort. I recommend the Eggbutt Ultra Comfy Lock Up for him. The Ultra Comfy Lock Up is double locked so that it cannot fold downwards or backwards, this means that it retains its shape in the horse’s mouth, and it eliminates any nut cracker action.  The mouth piece is also angled on the sides, so that it goes up and over the tongue, this greatly reduces tongue pressure.  5.25 inchs is a 135mm. I think we need to go at least 5mm smaller for the bit to fit, which takes us to a 130mm. We then need to go down a further 5mm because the Ultra Comfy Lock Up fits differently in the mouth to the Tranz Angled Lozenge. This leaves us with a 125mm. Trialing the bit the ensure the size is perfect would be the best solution! Regards, Claire@Bombers - Claire @ Bombers one month ago
Hi Claire, Could you please tell me the product code for the bit you suggest? I'm struggling to find the one called ultra comfy lock up it in a 125mm? I've found this one but I'm not sure if its the same thing? http://www.thehorsebitshop.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1895. Thanks you for all of your help Stacey Would the lock up snaffle, be the same as ultra comfy lock up or is two different bits? - Stacey Derbyshire one month ago
Hi Stacey, The Lock Up and the Ultra Comfy Lock Up are different. The Ultra Comfy is angled on the sided, and the Lock Up is straight. Both these sites stock the Loose Ring, and I am sure if you give them a ring, they will have the Eggbutt as well: https://www.forelockandload.com/products/bomber-bit-hire-loose-ring-ultra-comfy-lock-up https://www.equitain.com/products/bomber-loose-ring-ultra-comfy-lock-up?variant=35025638414 Again, if the size isn't on the website, please ask them, as they will either have it or be able to order it for you. Please let me know how you get on with the bit!! Regard, Claire@Bombers - Claire @ Bombers one month ago
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