A bit for big strong young horse to jump in?

4year old 17hands Irish sport. Currently in a ported Pelham to jump in as very strong but sits behind the bit and has a fixed neck when jumping only. Goes well in d-ring snaffle on flat but too strong to jump in this. Recommendations for jumping something that would encourage him to take the contact and stay supple but still gives me breaks. Pessoa with a french link was better for suppleness but couldn’t control around a course. Jointed and Mullen mouth Pelham’s didn’t allow steering once he became forward

Posted in Starting Young Horses, asked by Zoe, 5 weeks ago. 84 hits.

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Hi Zoe,

Would it be possible for you to send me a photo of the Pelham with the port that you are using? Ported bits can use very different pressures depending on their design. Knowing what pressure it uses will allow me to make a recommendation which will change the pressures.

The fact that he wasn't great in the French Link tell me that we need to stay away from too much tongue pressure with him.

Please do send the pic through and I will then make a recommendation for you.

Regards,
Claire@Bombers

Claire @ Bombers
5 weeks ago
Sorry only just realised my reply hadn’t posted please see below thanks - Zoe 3 weeks ago

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Hi it is the same as this one many thanks

Zoe
3 weeks ago

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Hi Zoe,

Thank you for sending the photo through!

The Pelham you are using does not give much tongue relief due to the port being quite narrow. I find many horses will go against the curb chain. I would like to get away from the curb for such a young horse.

I recommend a 2½ Ring Ported Barrel for your horse. This mouth piece will take the pressure off his tongue very well, but as it is jointed you will be able to aid on one side of the mouth at a time, this helps to improve suppleness and turning. With a solid mouth piece there is always some vibration on the opposite side to which the rider is aiding.

The 2½ Ring will give some poll pressure and leverage on the mouth piece. The 2½ Ring is supplied fitted with a back strap, this strap sits much higher than a curb chain does. The back strap is not intended to apply extra pressure, it is there to regulate how quickly the leverage on the mouth piece comes into play. I suggest starting with it quite loose and slowly tightening it one hole at a time during the course of one ride, you will feel where you horse responds the best.

Regards,
Claire@Bombers

Claire @ Bombers
3 weeks ago
Hi I’ve been trying the bit you mentioned above but he’s very strong and running out at his fences as he’s coming so fast? Any other suggestions thanks - Zoe 5 days ago

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Hi Zoe,

Thank you for getting back to me.

Which ring have you had your rein on? And how tight have you had the back strap? Have you experimented with the back strap at all?

Regards,
Claire@Bombers

Claire @ Bombers
3 days ago
Hi I’ve used my rein on the bottom ring, and the back strap has been on every hole! It didn’t seem to make any difference if I’m being honest. I took it off one day And he didn’t become worse for not having it. He’s a nightmare! Hes one that the second you put a bit on that he either decides you have control l and behaves or acts like you’re riding him in a head collar! Hence why we ended up in a Pelham thanks - Zoe 3 days ago
Hi Zoe, Do you have any video you could send through to me? You're welcome to email me on: sales@bombers.co.za Regards, Claire@Bombers - Claire @ Bombers 3 days ago
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