Sensitive mare sticking her tongue out and pulling faces!

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I have a 15 year old ex-trotter mare who my instructor is trying to school at the moment but unfortunately, we are encountering some problems. For the past year, I have been riding her in a loose ring lozenge bit with a Micklem bridle which she is not happy in. Issues are low palate, very active mouth, very strong, opens her mouth, tongue comes out and flaps all over the place, grunts, yanks forward and doesn't allow you to collect reins after giving a stretch. She is not over keen on poll pressure or nutcracker effect.

My instructor has suggested reverting back to my basic bridle with no flash. I have just had on trial a Bombers loose ring happy tongue which showed 90% improvement which we were both amazed by. The only issue I had when hacking out with it was that she started to make a funny sucking noise and started to tilt her head to one side when being ridden which was becoming frustrating and just very occasionally a little heavy and slight rubbing on the side of her face, but still lovely and light to ride. The bit has now been returned and the hire company suggested now trying the Portuguese 2.5 ring...is this something you would recommend or could you please help with other suggestions? Missing the happy tongue already as it made such a difference so we are at least on the right track.

Posted in General, asked by Zeena, 2 years ago. 737 hits.
I can't seem to add my response to this so I have posted here. Hi Claire Thank you for your response. I have never attempted anything like you are asking me to so not entirely sure what I am attempting, but my husband is very good at doing these things so we will have a go. We are in the UK and we are on WhatsApp. Just to let you know I have ordered the Bombers loose ring cherry roller on trial which should arrive tomorrow (Wednesday). My instructor rode her Sunday in a NS turtle top and she hated it and got her tongue straight over and was throwing her head about. So again, we have seen a remarkable difference in the happy tongue. - Zeena 2 years ago

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Hi Zeena
Thank you for your comprehensive email. With the Happy Tongue showing such an improvement, this is a clear indication that he doesn't like tongue pressure and you have already detected that she doesn't like poll or bar pressure. The 2 1/5 ring will incur poll pressure so we would like to choose another option. Was she busy in her mouth with the Happy tongue? Presumably she has had neck, back and teeth done recently?
Regards
Bomber

Claire @ Bombers
2 years ago
Hi Claire Thank you for your prompt response. She was very busy in her mouth with the Happy tongue yes. Back, teeth and neck have been done on a regular basis but are actually due in the next couple of weeks. She always has most of her work done by the physio around her neck area as it is always the worst area due to her trotting. No other major issues though. Thanks Zeena - Zeena 2 years ago
HI Zeena It would appear that she doesn't like metal in her mouth, and we would suggest our Bomber Blue swivel mouth piece which is a ported nylon composite mouth piece and which provides relief from tongue pressure and encourages salivation. Could you have a look in her mouth and see how wide her bars are - see if you can fit three fingers into her lower jaw between the bars. Please confirm where you are situated perhaps we could arrange a call on What's App? Bomber has more questions to discuss. - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Hi Claire Thank you for your response. I have never attempted anything like you are asking me to so not entirely sure what I am attempting, but my husband is very good at doing these things so we will have a go. We are in the UK and we are on WhatsApp. Just to let you know I have ordered the Bombers loose ring cherry roller on trial which should arrive tomorrow (Wednesday). My instructor rode her Sunday in a NS turtle top and she hated it and got her tongue straight over and was throwing her head about. So again, we have seen a remarkable difference in the happy tongue. - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena, do let us know how you get on with measuring between the bars - your husband will need to take hold of her tongue and pull it out to the side so that he can lay his fingers into her lower jaw and measure the space between the bars where the bit would sit. With regard to the Cherry Roller, she may object to the nut cracker action which will apply tongue and bar pressure by lifting her head up. This bit will not offer the tongue relief that she needs. You may phone Bomber on What's App, his number is 0027 83 234 1960. - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Hi Claire, it is the happy tongue version we have on trial. Anyhow, I will let you know our findings. Is this number SA? - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena O K great, interested to see how she goes. - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
As a matter of interest which Bomber Blue swivel mouthpiece are you referring to? - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena The mouth piece is the Bomber Blue nylon composite, it is not fixed to the cheek piece which allows the mouth piece to rotate. The horse then sets the mouth piece where it is most comfortable and there is no pressure exerted on the tongue. Excellent solution for those ultra sensitive horses. - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Claire, there are 27 different ones just on your page...which particular one are you referring to please. - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena Please may we have your email address and we will send you a photo, there isn't one on the website. Apologies for this inconvenience. - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Hi Claire I was going to suggest my email address as we seem to be monopolising this page lol! zeenablakemore@btinternet.com Thank you - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Claire, would it be possible to email me as per your previous response? Thanks Zeena - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Claire, is this thread still open as I haven't heard from you. Your previous messages says you would email me. Is this still possible? - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Claire, further to your suggestion of having my email address, I have still heard nothing and I would really like to purchase the bit you are recommending. Is there any reason I have heard nothing? - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Claire, really confused as to why I am now being ignored! - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena, Please check your Junk or Spam folder. We have emailed the pictures through to your address above 3 times. I have also replied to your email this morning. If you don't receive my email, please let me know. Regards, Claire@Bombers - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Hi Claire, so good to hear from you! No I have received nothing at all. My email address is zeenablakemore@btinternet.com or my husband is adamblakemore@btinternet.com No mail is showing is spam. I am on facebook and WhatsApp is that helps. Seems to be a nightmare! - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena, I have forwarded my email to your husband, please let me know if he doesn't receive it. Regards, Claire@Bombers - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Hi, nothing has comes through as yet, but will keep you posted. - Zeena 2 years ago
Claire, nothing is coming through - Zeena 2 years ago
Nothing received - Zeena 2 years ago
Hi Zeena, This is really strange. Please would you send me an sms or WhatsApp on +27 73 297 5492 I will then send you a picture of the bit. I don't want to ask you to put your number on such a public forum. Regards, Claire@Bombers - Claire @ Bombers 2 years ago
Very strange indeed! WhatsApp message on its way to you. Thank you. - Zeena 2 years ago
Just wanted to say a massive 'thank you' to Claire from Bombers. I have been amazed at your professionalism throughout this ordeal of trying to make contact with me. Your help and patience have been overwhelming and you are still helping via WhatsApp. Thank you so much Claire, you will be highly recommended xx - Zeena 2 years ago
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